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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2013, 01:44:49 pm »
The Assassination / He who laughs has not yet been told the awful truth

I watched Chet Huntley and David Brinkley comment as the numbers were manually changed on the NBC board on a November night in 1960.  Sitting in Mr. Johnson's English class the intercom announced the president had been shot, was dead, that the buses would be at the entrance to take us home for the weekend—so we could watch Jack Ruby lunge at Lee and fire the shot that would silence him.

I went to New York with Young Americans for Freedom to draft Goldwater the next year, and Bill Moyers depicted the Senator as a dangerous daisy-plucking warmonger—no matter it was his candidate who concocted the Tonkin Gulf casus belli.

Then next year Johnson chose to lose the war.  http://hnn.us/articles/34024.html

In three more years King would be shot (not by Ray); Bobby would be shot (not by Sirhan) and Johnson (demoralized by CIA-asset Cronkite's Tet lament) would cry like Casino Joe Pesci's little girl.

January 19, 1969 we would be in the Washington streets for the Nixon Counterinnaugural when Rudd's Maoists would chant Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh The NLF Is Gonna Win and bang the iron knockers on Justice as the shirtsleeved lawyers on the second floor shot the bird and sneered.

October 8-11, 1969 Rudd and Bill Ayers and two hundred in army surplus would try to outrun Daley's police army for SDS Days of Rage in Chicago.

James Douglass has been most eloquent.  Indeed John Kennedy tried through personal correspondence and private emissaries and bold treaties and bolder executive order to oppose a war imperative and a bloodsucking Federal Reserve and an oil empire and a worldview promoted by Oceania and Eurasia and Eastasia.

The cynical lies of the power elite have not diminished in fifty years.  The sponsors transcend politics, nations, religions, respecting only power, as measured in money, as garnered by any amount of gore, blood, deceit, and fakery.

I thought the world was a clash of ideas, of policies.

Why then is NSA building a million-square-foot facility in Utah and why do we need to be in Afghanistan (smack) and Libya (oil).

As my U.S. History teacher told me, you can't go back.

Forward.
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2013, 01:45:24 pm »

The Assassination / He who laughs has not yet been told the awful truth

I watched Chet Huntley and David Brinkley comment as the numbers were manually changed on the NBC board on a November night in 1960.  Sitting in Mr. Johnson's English class the intercom announced the president had been shot, was dead, that the buses would be at the entrance to take us home for the weekend—so we could watch Jack Ruby lunge at Lee and fire the shot that would silence him.

I went to New York with Young Americans for Freedom to draft Goldwater the next year, and Bill Moyers depicted the Senator as a dangerous daisy-plucking warmonger—no matter it was his candidate who concocted the Tonkin Gulf casus belli.

Then next year Johnson chose to lose the war.  http://hnn.us/articles/34024.html

In three more years King would be shot (not by Ray); Bobby would be shot (not by Sirhan) and Johnson (demoralized by CIA-asset Cronkite's Tet lament) would cry like Casino Joe Pesci's little girl.

January 19, 1969 we would be in the Washington streets for the Nixon Counterinnaugural when Rudd's Maoists would chant Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh The NLF Is Gonna Win and bang the iron knockers on Justice as the shirtsleeved lawyers on the second floor shot the bird and sneered.

October 8-11, 1969 Rudd and Bill Ayers and two hundred in army surplus would try to outrun Daley's police army for SDS Days of Rage in Chicago.

James Douglass has been most eloquent.  Indeed John Kennedy tried through personal correspondence and private emissaries and bold treaties and bolder executive order to oppose a war imperative and a bloodsucking Federal Reserve and an oil empire and a worldview promoted by Oceania and Eurasia and Eastasia.

The cynical lies of the power elite have not diminished in fifty years.  The sponsors transcend politics, nations, religions, respecting only power, as measured in money, as garnered by any amount of gore, blood, deceit, and fakery.

I thought the world was a clash of ideas, of policies.

Why then is NSA building a million-square-foot facility in Utah and why do we need to be in Afghanistan (smack) and Libya (oil).

As my U.S. History teacher told me, you can't go back.

Forward.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2013, 01:46:46 pm »
The Assassination / Dave's not here--but he was on the Big Day

The Dallas meeting with Bishop that September took place in the busy lobby of a large downtown office building.  From Veciana's description of its distinctive blue tiled facade, it was probably the Southland Center, a 42-story office complex built in the late Fifties.  Veciana recalls that as soon as he walked in, he saw Bishop standing in a corner of the lobby talking with a pale, slight and soft-featured young man.  Veciana does not recall if Bishop introduced him by name, but Bishop ended his conversation with the young man shortly after Veciana arrived.  Together, they walked out of the lobby onto the busy sidewalk.  Bishop and the young man stopped behind Veciana for a moment, had a few additional words, then the young man gestured farewell and walked away.  Bishop immediately turned to Veciana and began a discussion of the current activities of Alpha 66 as they walked to a nearby coffee shop.  He never spoke to Veciana about the young man and Veciana didn't ask.

On the day that John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Veciana immediately recognized the news photographs and television images of Lee Harvey Oswald as being of the young man he had seen with Maurice Bishop in Dallas.  There was no doubt in his mind.  When I asked if it could have been someone who closely resembled Oswald, Veciana said, “Well, you know, Bishop himself taught me how to remember faces, how to remember characteristics.  I am sure it was Oswald.  If it wasn't Oswald, it was someone who looked exactly like him.  Exacto, exacto.”

Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation, Thunders Mouth, First Trade Paperback Edition, 1994, pages 141-2.

Bishop does the dance of seven veils, but he is David Atlee Phillips, likely handler of Oswald, certainly implicated in the cable trail out of Mexico City, later said to have admitted to his brother that, yes, he'd been in Dallas the day of the assassination.

Fonzi was on the trail of DeMohrenschildt the day the latter sucked a shotgun under suspicious circumstances.

Fonzi's colleague Ed Lopez coauthored with Dan Hardway the vital Lopez Report of Oswald in Mexico City.
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2013, 01:47:23 pm »
The Assassination / What makes Lee run?

What was Lee's motive for what he did not do?  Gil Jesus and George Michael Evica showed he never owned the Mannlicher-Carcano; Dallas nitrate-paraffin testing showed he did not fire a rifle.

He enlisted in the Marines and was used by ONI in the false defection program; brought back and passed off by CIA Domestic Contacts agent J. Walton Moore to CIA asset George de Mohrenschildt; placed in the Depository by CIA-linked Ruth Paine.  A patsy doesn't need a motive; a patsy didn't do it.

The Commission decided the motive wasn't necessary—for that matter, since the assassins killed the patsy, a trial wasn't necessary.

Yet the motivation for Lee in his career was inspiration derived from the dramatization of Herbert J. Philbrick, citizen, Communist, spy for the F.B.I.

Lee was an undercover intelligence operative for ONI, CIA, FBI.

Reading now in Gerald McKnight of how the Rankin Commission (mistakenly called the Warren Commission) colluded with Hoover and Dulles to not investigate the claims Lee was an informant for either the FBI or CIA.

The last night of his life he called John Hurt in North Carolina, his ONI handler.

In The Last Investigation, Gaeton Fonzi interviews Alpha 66's Antonio Veciana who worked under CIA's David Atlee Phillips styling himself Maurice Bishop.  Veciana met Phillips in Dallas in the summer of 1963 and found the CIA agent talking with Oswald.

Lee didn't fire at Walker—that was Marina's made-up story after Ruby shot Lee.  Lee didn't shoot Tippit—not unless he got hold of an automatic, or was working with a heavy-set fellow.

And Lee didn't shoot JFK—not unless he used a handgun with bullets which could reach Elm Street from the second floor lunchroom of the Depository.

Besides—lone nuts a) don't need motives; and, b) don't need any forensic evidence.

As for motives of the killers:  James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable is excellent; also of interest: Double-Cross; Mafia Kingfish—the statements of the figures of the time are precious:

Tolson said somebody ought to shoot the Kennedy brothers.  Marcello said JFK was going to get hit.  The chiefs were enraged over the missile crisis backdown from preemptive strike.  The CIA weren't about to allow themselves to be shattered into a thousand pieces.  The Federal Reserve principals were determined to countermand EO 11110.

In short, Lee's motive was to follow the instructions of his serial intelligence handlers out of patriotism and a romantic notion of the daring and dangerous career of a secret agent.

It is of note that the tip-off of the Chicago plot came from a person named “Lee.”

Hence we might say Lee was motivated by a desire to save the life of President Kennedy.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2013, 01:48:09 pm »
The Assassination / The two-minute hate lasts a half century

The assassin in black on the cover of LIFE: a vital component of the symbolic demonization of the sole assassin.

The telephonic conversation of Hoover and LBJ echoes that of Rostow to Moyers re a “groggy” Katzenbach—all singing on the same page: the single focal point for the nation's rage, grief, shock.

Behold the man dressed in black, the color of evil.

He brandishes the weapons with which he (did not) slay the president and the policeman.

He waves despicable Red rags in our faces (diametric ideological foes, but you, John Q. Public, do not know that significant fact).

Fifteen anomalies identified in the White-Fetzer-Marrs article.

All “put to rest” by the FBI-servile Hani Farid with facile and specious silver-tongued speech.

Behold the public roll-out of the image of satan for the Twentieth Century: LIFE (ironic, iconic, intelligence-linked) edited by Ike's psychological warfare czar.

Who in 1952 wrote Ike's campaign speech calling for all branches of government to speak with the SAME talking points.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2013, 01:48:57 pm »
The Assassination / Aftermath

The other publishers were aghast. "Mr. President," said Jim Chambers, publisher of the Times Herald (Dallas' afternoon paper) and a man who knew Ted Dealey well, "I think you should know that Mr. Dealey does not express the sentiments of all the publishers around this table." The incident produced a national media fire storm, and the News relished every moment. Around the state and the country, Ted Dealey was condemned as a reactionary and a boor. But in Dallas, the News received more than 2,000 letters, and 1700 of them voiced approval of his actions. In Dallas it was Jim Chambers who fielded the stacks of hate mail.

Two years later a News advertising salesman took the copy for an unusual ad up to the executive suite. He was worried about the ad's strong language and uncertain origin. Normally such questions would have been routed through Joe Dealey, Ted's son, but Joe was away at a newspaper convention and wouldn't be back until President Kennedy's visit the next day. Instead, the decision was left to Ted.

Even today Joe Dealey shakes his head at the memory of the ad. "Damn, we ought not to have done it," he says. "If I'd been sitting there, I'd have killed it." But Ted was sitting there, and so, on November 22, 1963, John Kennedy was greeted with the ad that would forever link the Dallas Morning News with the tragic events of that day. "Welcome, Mr. Kennedy, to Dallas," it began, and it went on to ask a series of rhetorical questions, such as "Why have you scrapped the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the Spirit of Moscow?" The entire ad was enclosed in a thick black border. That morning Kennedy read the ad and handed it to his wife. "Oh, you know, we're heading into nut country," he said. Three hours later he was struck dead by an assassin's bullet — as his limousine passed through a plaza named for G. B. Dealey."

-- excerpt from "The Legacy of Citizen Robert," by Peter Elkind. Published in the July, 1985 issue of Texas Monthly.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2013, 01:49:37 pm »
The Assassination / The medium is the message

SebPer

Welcome.  You suggest the assassination was a coup d'etat.  That it intended a message of limits on the power of the elected president vis-a-vis a power elite.  It's execution was public, blatant, brutal and unmistakable.

The best summation of the thesis to date, in my view and that of many, is James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why he died and why it matters.

Here is an introductory excerpt:

http://www.maryknollsocietymall.org/chapters/978-1-57075-755-6.pdf

The excerpt is 54 pages, the text of the book, 400, followed by 100 pages of fascinating notes.

Douglass posits JFK was “soon marked out for assassination” for his serial obstruction of the aims of the security state, e.g., Bay of Pigs, missile crisis, test ban treaty, detente with Khruschev, and National Security Action Memorandum 263, his codified intention to withdraw from Vietnam rather than commit combat troops.

JFK had made enemies of powerful men as indicated in Marrs' Crossfire, namely, LBJ, Hoover, Dulles and the CIA, the Pentagon, the mob, namely Marcello, Giancana, Hoffa, oil men, namely Murchison and Hunt, others including racist opponents of civil rights.

Robert presents the case for Marcello as the sole major figure to confess responsibility.

There are many facets explored by a league of researchers determined to uncover the truth.

Your premise is sound, the gravity and enormity of the conspiracy, crossfire and coverup far surpass the simple requirements of a contract murder—it was a symbol of the shadow government's power.

The leader of the Free World is shot dead in a Texas street at high noon as the world watches in horror.

Is it not fascinating that the following year the Soviets replaced the peace-seeking Khruschev with the Cold Warrior Brezhnev, even as LBJ the hawk concocted the Tonkin Gulf Resolution as pretext for a profitable war.

Access to the heroin of the Golden Triangle cannot be excluded from motives: Luciano used by U.S. intelligence, his man Lansky working the trade through Cuba, failing that route they turn to Southeast Asia and nothing stands in their way.

Your instincts are correct: the demands of power always threaten its democratic restraint.

That is the tension of history.
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2013, 01:50:11 pm »
The Assassination / Gil Jesus, 10 Reasons

Gil Jesus,  "10 REASONS WHY I BELIEVE THE "OSWALD RIFLE" ISN'T OSWALD'S"

http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=3&topic_id=85804&mesg_id=85804&page=

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15318

In Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why, records show the Atomic Energy Commission Oak Ridge laboratory tested the Mannlicher-Carcano showing it unfailingly left antimony and barium on the shooter's cheek, and the same laboratory used the then-state-of-the-art Neutron Activation Analysis to confirm the Dallas Police paraffin cast of Lee Oswald's cheek results as negative, that is, Lee Oswald did not fire that rifle, further, the test is dispositive for his having fired any rifle.


Evica on the Carcano: Oswald Never Possessed the Rifle

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?37-Evica-on-the-Carcano-Oswald-Never-Possessed-the-Rifle
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2013, 01:50:49 pm »
The Assassination / Hoover panics at Yates' account

The story of Ralph Leon Yates (cited by piopat and echelon above) illustrates the ruthlessness of Hoover in suppressing the truth, as well as the sloppy intelligence “legend-building” intended to frame Oswald.

How like the Soviet method of declaring insane those who resist the Party's rule is the treatment of Citizen Yates filled with remorse that he may have unwittingly assisted the assassin.

Eleven years, four hospitals, forty-two shock treatments and enough thorazine to make him a zombie.

James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, page 356:

Only the FBI knew why Ralph Yates needed to be taken seriously.  Not even Yates himself, who had no sense of an Oswald double, understood the significance of what he felt compelled to say for the rest of his life.  Only the Federal Bureau of Investigation recognized the importance of his testimony, with the threat it posed to the government's case against Oswald.  If evidence surfaced of the Oswald-like hitchhiker, who delivered his “curtain rods” to the Depository two days before the assassination, it would have preempted and brought into question the government-endorsed curtain rods story, as given by Buell Wesley Frazier.  Thanks to the bungling redundancy of cover stories, the plot to kill the president was again in danger of exposure.

Shooting ranges and car lots, furniture stores to Sylvia Odio, Mexico City to the Thornton Expressway, Oswald dopplegangers abound.
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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2013, 01:51:52 pm »
The Assassination / Oswalds in Mexico City

Transcript of a fascinating Len Osanic interview with Dan Hardway who with Ed Lopez wrote the HSCA Mexico City Report often called the Lopez Report, suppressed for years, partially declassified now, that is, released with blacked out redactions.

Hardway refers to George Joannides brought out of retirement by CIA to thwart the Lopez-Hardway file search at CIA.  Even now Jefferson Morley's suit to release the Joannides file is thwarted by CIA under the “transparent” Obama administration's new DCI—Obama wanted Brennan, settled for Panetta, and now installs Petraeus.

The following paragraph is a key pull-quote:


Dan Hardway - I came to the conclusion that there was more than one person, well, I came personally to the conclusion that either the person who claimed to be Oswald was not Oswald, or that there was more than one person in Mexico City claiming to be Oswald.  One of those people may well have been him. I did not investigate whether or not he actually went. I looked at his activities while he was supposedly there.  You know, I just finished reading Jim Douglass’ book and I wish I had been more well informed of some of the other Oswald impostor sightings in New Orleans and Dallas at the time that I was working on this.  I would have liked to have been able to get into some of that as well.  But, personally I believe that there was someone imitating or posing as Oswald in Mexico City.  But, I can’t rule out him being there himself.

http://www.blackopradio.com/dan_hardway.html
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2013, 01:52:43 pm »
The Assassination / Terra cotta warriors--who collects the whole set?

Grassygnome, in your Reply #35 you ask, “Why would Hunt have lied in his deathbed confession?”

I paid for the download of Saint John Hunt's Bond of Secrecy and printed it, punched it and placed it in a binder.  In five pages at Christmas of 2008 I told Saint John his father remained true to his Agency.

We have Give Us This Day (1973) as an expression, albeit romanticized, of Hunt's loyalty to his Cuban comrades and his outrage at what he clearly perceives as their betrayal.

The same year Gore Vidal in the Art and Arts of E. Howard Hunt treats the role of Hunt in the notes of Oswald and Bremer, and the forged cables framing Kennedy for Diem's murder.

Did LBJ call off the final raid by the B-26's with .50 caliber machine guns in their noses to destroy Fidel Castro's three armed T-33's?

In Plausible Denial, Mark Lane blows Hunt's diaphanous alibi for the latter's whereabouts November 22, 1963.

What is the role of a propaganda officer?

You cite Johnson and Hoover as unconsidered possible sponsors.  Yet Johnson whimpered, “No mas, no mas,” in March of 1968, the month before King was shot with a military intelligence officer Marell McCullough on the balcony checking his vitals—and McCullough would become a CIA officer.

Hoover would die of a heart attack in May, 1972, and the following year Johnson would die, of a heart attack.  So, who is preventing Jefferson Morley from obtaining the CIA file on George Joannides who ran the Directorate.  Who is redacting the Lopez Report on Mexico City.  Johnson, Hoover, Marcello, Murchison, the Mossad, Masons?

I don't for a minute dispute the wide range of enemies Kennedy accrued in his lifetime, their glee in his murder, their possible involvement in some aspect of the implementation.

We may look at the sequence of violent deaths preceding the HSCA investigation, Hoffa and Giancana in 1975, Roselli in 1976, Nicoletti and DeMohrenschildt in 1977.

We may look at the violent death of David Ferrie, who was linked to Marcello and the FBI/CIA agent Banister; Banister dies in 1964, Ferrie as soon as Garrison publicly names him.

Yet who placed ten moles in the Garrison investigation, provided the defense attorneys, sabotaged the trial with media leaks, installed a teletype in the local CIA office to apprise Richard Helms who daily inquired about “our people down there” according to Marchetti.

By the time the curse, “take the stone from my shoe” was uttered for Becker's ears, Angleton had run the Oswald file through a maze of devices, and Helms had appoiinted Harvey who would solicit the assistance of John Roselli and his people.

Hoover would suppress evidence of conspiracy (see the treatment of Leon Yates who picked up the Oswald double with a double order of curtain rods).

Hunt would be in Dallas, not outside some Chinese grocery.  And on his deathbed would deflect blame from his Agency to Johnson.

Loyal to the last.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2013, 01:53:35 pm »
The Assassination / Papers, please

In Jim DiEugenio's Part 6 Section II review of Bugliosi http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_6_review.html the proliferation of brown paper bags is related.

When Fritz confronted Oswald about the Frazier curtain rods story, Oswald denied it. (WR p. 604).

No witness saw Oswald enter the Depository with the alleged bag, nor saw Oswald at the Paine residence with it.

Troy West was the Depository employee responsible for the company's paper and tape, never left his station, never saw Oswald asking for or removing materials.

The bag was not oily though the rifle was.  The bag was however early—just ask Leon Yates.

And late as well, notifying Ruth Paine to come to the Irving post office to pick it up.

No one found it though each said the other found it; no one photographed it in situ, and it grew from Frazier's description to its press photo and shrank by the time it reached the archives.

The section at the link above is over 2500 words—the bag saga is complex, though the take-away is not:  it was not made by Oswald and did not contain the rifle which he did not own and was not used in the shooting that day.

And the paper was and was not identical to that at the Depository—see the Pat Speer link.  Pat Speer is meticulous: the Bureau matched the paper to a roll at the Depository—but not at the time the bag was allegedly made.  No match.  Identical, not identical.

http://www.patspeer.com/chapter4d%3Asackoflies
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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2013, 01:54:16 pm »
The Assassination / JFK Book Deposit History

I just finished Gerald D. McKnight, Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why, and am now reading George Michael Evica, A Certain Arrogance: The Sacrificing of Lee Harvey Oswald and the Cold War Manipulation of Religious Groups by US Intelligence.

In the former book is confirmed the suppression of evidence and ignoring of inconvenient witnesses by Hoover's FBI, and the dispelling of the myth of a monolithic commission conclusion—in fact, many doubts remained as to the plausibility of the magic bullet or single bullet, the significance of Oswald's Mexico City trip, and a host of other evidentiary dreck filling 26 volumes.

In the latter book are addressed such indicators of intelligence complicity as Oswald's “enrollment” in the Albert Schweitzer College in Switzerland.

In the interim between the two books I revisited Noel Twyman, Bloody Treason: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy—On Solving History's Greatest Murder Mystery.

On page 251 is a diagram of Jack Ruby's calls to close associates of Mafia heads:

Barney Baker (Hoffa) and David Yaras (Trafficante)
Al Gruber (Giancana)
Peter Marcello
Lewis McWillie (Giancana)
Frank Caracci (Marcello)
Michael Shore (Giancana)
Novio Pecora (Marcello) and Carlos Marcello
Joe Glaser (Costello)
Dusty Miller (Hoffa)
Russell Matthews (Trafficante)
Irwin Weiner (Hoffa)

John Rosselli told Jack Anderson, “Ruby was one of our boys” who was “ordered to kill Oswald.”  Within three weeks Colonel Rosselli was canned like Charlie Tuna.

Consider Twyman on page 263:

When Oswald was thrown in jail in New Orleans for his fight with anti-Castro Cubans while handing out pro-Castro leaflets, some of the leaflets had 544 Camp Street (an address wholly associated with anti-Castro grops) stamped on them.  It was also the address of Guy Banister's office and was next door to the office of Jim Braden, a Mafia operative who was arrested in Dealey Plaza immediately after the JFK assassination, but immediately let go.


So when considering the question was JFK hit by the CIA or the Mafia, one must consider the answer just might be “yes.”
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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2013, 01:55:43 pm »
The Assassination / Why


If asked to differentiate between what's important and what's not in the assassination of JFK, what would be your first choices as examples of each?

James Jesus Angleton and William King Harvey, your two-part question presents an opportunity to stack the questions.

The basic is why.  Douglass in Unthinkable posits a half dozen “Bay of Pigs” offenses reaching critical mass, using the very comments by the late 35th president to a friend upon reading Seven Days in May.

Dulles referred to “that little Kennedy. . .he thought he was a god”--well, of course it was the Dulles brothers who were the gods, changing governments in all corners of the world for the benefit of the power elite.

The comment by Emory Roberts that Kennedy was “a traitor” who was “giving things away to the Russians”--can't have that detente.

NSAM 263 was replaced by NSAM 273 signed the day after the riderless horse was returned to its stable.  Tonkin Gulf the next year—hear LBJ describe that fraud to Russell in the phone tape of September 18, 1964.

Brown & Root, Bell Helicopter, General Dynamics, Dow did not lose their war profits.

Executive Order 11110 of June 4, 1963, threatening to undo the Federal Reserve's 1913 death grip on the nation was quashed.

And the Golden Triangle's drug wealth was guaranteed accessible to replace the French Connection.

At this moment the Afghan poppy crop supplies the world's heroin—such was not the case when the eevil Taliban curtailed the crop.

Karzai's brother has been named a CIA asset and drug smuggler and been defended by Gerald Posner.

The course of history was changed by the public execution by firing squad of the 35th president.

A critical mass of powerful enemies were coordinated by that agency the dead president had sworn to shatter into a thousand pieces and scatter to the winds.  So instead were his brains.

Oswald had no cheek gsr but Marcello confessed.  He'd told Becker you get the dog's head, not the tail, John, not Bobby—who'd harrassed him.

And the day of the deed LBJ and Hoover fell right into line: we have the man.

LBJ fought the war JFK would have avoided.  Hoover backed off the outfit RFK was pursuing.  There were drugs to sell for billions to be laundered through banks to be used for more covert ops.

Ruby was banished from Chicago to Dallas with the caveat that he would be available for duty for the outfit at any time.  He was in contact with associates of Marcello, Giancana, Hoffa, to finish the business they'd started.

And they'd been brought into the long-running manipulation of Oswald by Angleton by Helms through Harvey.

Recall that Gates told Leahy this month, “Senator, governments lie to each other—it's how business gets done.”

Gates would know—he was DCI.  As such he would also know, governments have agencies who lie to governments and the people, who are not accountable through the principle of plausible denial inherent in the National Security Acts of 1947-8.

JFK was assassinated so that business can get done.
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The Assassination / Carmen Miranda, Chiquita Banana and Rosetta Stone

Oswald, the CIA and Mexico City
 By John Newman, Ph.D.

http://www.ctka.net/pr999-osciamex.html


The impersonation of Oswald in Mexico by someone who drew attention to an Oswald connection to a KGB assassination officer may prove to be the Rosetta stone of this case.
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In Oswald and the CIA, I deliberately steered clear of the conspiracy-anti-conspiracy vortex in order to set out some of the facts concerning Oswald’s pre-assassination files. Since then, the cumulative weight of the evidence uncovered by the Review Board has led me to the conclusion that the Oswald impersonation can best be explained in terms of a plot to murder the president.
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The full article is Oswald, the CIA and Mexico City: Fingerprints of Conspiracy, by John Newman, PhD, in The Assassinations, edited by James DiEugenio and Lisa Pease, 2000, JFK: Section 3—Conspiracy and Cover-Up Proven, pages 217-224.

Newman presents evidence of an Oswald impersonator speaking of meeting Valery Kostikov known to the CIA as the chief of KGB assassination operations for the entire Western Hemisphere.  Newman says according to CIA cables and Kostikov himself, the real Oswald did meet Kostikov in Mexico.

David Atllee Phillips gave sworn testimony to the HSCA that Oswald asked the Soviets for money for another defection, having told Ron Kessler of the Washington Post the previous day that Oswald had offered information for money.

Newman adds that the first HSCA counsel Sprague said the CIA cables had been rewritten post-assassination to remove references to Oswald's visits to the Soviet and Cuban Embassies.

FBI's Gheesling suffered Hoover's censure and probation for having removed the Flash or Stop on Oswald which prevented FBI responding to CIA cables.

Was the stop removed because CIA informed FBI it was planning to embarrass FPCC by planting deceptive information.

Newman credits Peter Dale Scott's Phase I-Phase II analysis describing how initial reports of Oswald's contacts with Cuban and Soviet officials posed the World War III threat, hence the immediate default to the lone-nut hypothesis.

Newman is compelling in his continued emphasis that the manipulation of Oswald could only have been done by someone intimately familiar with intelligence operations.

As he said at close of his Who or What Was Lee Harvey Oswald:

Oswald was not created by the Mafia, the Cubans, the Russians or the Dallas Police.  He was a creation of the CIA, years before the assassination.
Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control. It is the shaping impulse of America that neither fate nor nature nor the irresistible tides of history, but the work of our own hands, matched to reason and principle, that will determine our destiny.

RFK