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Phil Dragoo Commentaries and Images
« on: July 11, 2013, 03:49:14 am »
The Assassination / Cui bono?

As a high school student released from class that Friday, I believed the official explanation.

I now view Oswald as a product and tool of ONI, CIA, FBI and the killers.

The first listing was Jim Marrs' classic Crossfire; followed by Fletcher Prouty, with recent refinement by James Douglass and Doug Horne.

Craig I. Zirbel is among those who posit Johnson benefited most; and Hunt's deathbed “deflection” masterfully fingers Johnson as well.

Surely Johnson assumed the position he coveted, eliminated the political enemy he loathed, avoided the likely prison time from the Bobby Baker and Billy Sol Estes scandals.

Hoover was able to secure from Johnson and Nixon his continued job security, and eliminate the man he despised.

Dulles, Angleton, Helms, Cabell (as well as Phillips, Morales, Hunt) got revenge on he who “blew” the Bay of Pigs and fired them and threatened to smash their agency into “a thousand pieces”.

Lansdale, Taylor, Lemnitzer and others in the military power structure eliminated the weak sister who would not attack the Soviet missiles in Cuba, banned nuclear tests, was seeking detente with Khruschev and demarche with Castro.

The oil men secured their depletion allowance (Murchison, Byrd, Hunt et al).

The mobsters got RFK off their case and settled accounts such as promises of immunity broken (Marcello, Traficante, Roselli, Giancana, Hoffa).

John F. Kennedy through his enlightened efforts at reform irritated powerful men without scruple who settled differences with applied force, in a ruthless and stealthy fashion.

Someone would have talked, but unlikely anyone heard Roselli tapping on the oil drum.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 03:50:02 am »
The Assassination / The President is Dead

The p.a. Interrupted our English class to tell us the president had been shot.  After a period of buzzing with startled responses and conjecture, the p.a. informed us he was dead and the buses were in front of the building.

At home the television carried continuous reporting.  Sunday morning we would get a look at this Lee Harvey Oswald--

Honk; he appears.  Honk, bang, he is down.

It would not be until Geraldo showed the Zapruder film a second time, not 1975, but 1976, that I realized it was not as advertised.
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Re: Phil Dragoo
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 03:51:08 am »
The Assassination / Oswald

JamesJAngleton/BillKHarvey     

You ask what I deem to have been Oswald's role.

And how was he
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 03:52:05 am »
The Assassination / Two shells--oh wait, here's a third

JamesJAngleton/BillKHarvey

The ballistic anomalies are extensive.

Gil Jesus has ten reasons Oswald never owned the alleged weapon.

Craig and Weitzman et al found a Mauser.

The report of three shells was an edit of an earlier find of two per this Dave Reitzes reference to Noel Twyman, Anna Marie Kuhns-Walko and others:

A startling, new fact has emerged recently, from where it had been buried
deep inside the National Archives for thirty-five years: Newly discovered
documents prove that the Dallas Police did not find three spent shells in
the Texas School Book Depository; they found TWO, along with one LIVE
(unfired) round.

These documents include:

1) A Dallas Police Department report dated November 22, 1963, signed by
Lt. Carl Day, the DPD's identifications expert, noting that evidence is
being turned over to the jurisdiction of the FBI. It states that the
listed items were found in the Texas School Book Depository between 1:30
and 2:15 pm that day. The items are the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, serial
number C2766 (allegedly traced later to Oswald), and, an exact quote: "2
Spent Hulls from 6th floor window."  Lt. Day's signature is followed by
that of Officer R. L Studebaker, who witnessed the transfer of the
evidence from Lt. Day to FBI Agent Vince Drain, who "took possession of
all evidence."

2) A copy of the receipt of these items by the FBI: "1 6.5 Rifle # C2766"
and "2 Spent hulls found at [illegible] School Book Depository."

3) A handwritten receipt for these additional items from the DPD: "2
[photographic] negatives + 4 prints of each of two 6.5 hulls + 1 "live"
round of 6.5 ammunition from rifle found on 6th floor of Texas school
[sic] Book Depository, Dallas on 11-22-63."

4) The original FBI evidence sheet for all items in their possession
purportedly belonging to Lee Harvey Oswald, which lists "Live round 6.5"
and "6.5 spent rounds (2)." This report was originally introduced into
evidence as Commission Exhibit 2003, and published on page 260 of the
Warren Commission's twenty-fourth volume of evidence, but -- as J. Gary
Shaw and Larry Harris noted in their 1976 book, Cover-Up -- the published
version's "6.5 spent rounds (2)" has the two altered to a three that
appears to be handwritten. These and the following items are reproduced
in full in Noel Twyman's 1997 book Bloody Treason (62).

5) Commission Exhibits 510 and 512, two police photographs of the three
spent shells as they were allegedly found near the sixth floor window.
Noel Twyman points out that in CE 510, one of the three hulls appears to
be a live round; while the same hull in CE 512 (63) has been
conspicuously blacked out, with a crude forgery of a shell drawn or
scratched onto the negative (64).
 
6) The original FBI evidence envelope, signed by Special Agent J. Doyle
Williams, which once contained the above-mentioned negatives and
photographs of the spent shells from the Book Depository: "2 negatives
and 4 prints of each," listing, "two 6.5 bullet hulls + 1 "live" round of
6.5 ammunition from rifle found on 6th floor of Texas Book Depository
[sic], Dallas on 11-22-63" (65).

7) And the frosting on the cake, discovered in the National Archives
recently by researcher Anna-Marie Kuhns-Walko, one of the actual DPD
photographs depicting (you guessed it) two spent shells and one live
round (66).

Subsequently a third spent shell was added to the evidence. Whoever it
was who ordered this third shell planted was also powerful enough to
ensure not a single Dallas policeman, Sheriff's deputy or official would
reveal to the Warren Commission that their signed, dated records of
evidence had been altered and replaced, and that a third spent shell had
been introduced as being from the Book Depository.

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/JA/DR/.dr13.html
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 03:52:58 am »
The Assassination / Joaanides, Blakey, and Posner--oh my


JamesJAngleton/BillKHarvey

How precious to see Posner signing on to a demand the CIA be forthcoming.

How bodacious to see Blakey mock-angry at the Agency he so protected.

Great praise to Morley for integrity and persistence.

I stipulate Joaanides was up to his armpits in setting up Oswald as a Castro agent before and after, then in obstruction of investigation which would have revealed his agency's complicity.

But to petition Obama to out the mother of all stonewalling regime-changers—expect Saul Alinsky and Lucifer to enjoy a good snowball fight first.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/27/dead_spys_jfk_files_pose_a_test_for_obamas_foia_or/

Dead Spy's JFK Files Pose a Test for Obama's FOIA Order

By Jefferson Morley - May 27, 2009, 12:35PM

In his executive order strengthening the Freedom of Information Act, President Obama declared that the law should "be administered with a clear presumption: In the face of doubt, openness prevails." Many have applauded Obama's intentions but whether his beautiful words can actually reverse extreme claims of secrecy has yet to be determined.

Case in point: my lawsuit against the Central Intelligence Agency for a batch of records on a decorated undercover officer named George Joannides. In December 2003, I sued the agency under the FOIA for the files of Joannides, a psychological warfare specialist who played not one, but two interesting roles in the story of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in November 22, 1963.

As I explained in this 2007 article for Playboy.com, Joannides was "the man who didn't talk." As chief of the psychological warfare operations in Miami in 1963, he failed to report on a series of heated public encounters between accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald and members of a CIA-sponsored Cuban exile group that he guided and monitored to the tune of $51,000 a month. Within hours of JFK's murder, members of the group shaped first day coverage of the assassination by giving reporters evidence that Kennedy's killer was a communist. The CIA did not disclose Joannides' financial relationship with Oswald's anti-Castro antagonists to the Warren Commission.

In 1978, Joannides was called out of retirement to serve as the CIA's liaison to the congressional JFK investigators. He said nothing about his undercover mission in 1963, even when asked for records about Oswald's contacts with his intelligence-gathering network. G. Robert Blakey, the Notre Dame law professor and former federal prosecutor who ran the probe, says Joannides' actions constituted obstruction of Congress, a felony. Joannides died in 1990 having never been questioned by JFK investigators. His Washington Post obituary described him only as a "Defense Department lawyer."

The story of Joannides' deceptions only came into the public record in 2001 when I broke the story in the Miami New Times. In 2003, I reported in Salon.com that a diverse group of leading JFK scholars had called for release of the Joannides files, an appeal that the agency spurned. In court CIA lawyers initially claimed they didn't even have to search for Joannides documents, a position that a three-judge appellate court unanimously rejected in 2007.

Along the way, the lawsuit has yielded more evidence that Joannides' superiors approved of his assassination cover-up. In 2005 the CIA admitted that Joannides had received the Distinguished Intelligence Medal for "exceptional achievement" in July 1981, three years after he misled Congress. In a court filing last December, Delores Nelson, the agency's top information officer, acknowledged for the first time that Joannides served in an "undercover" capacity while working with the congressional JFK investigators in 1978.

The fact that the CIA ran an undercover operation on U.S. soil amidst a congressional inquiry into a presidential assassination is startling--and more than a little relevant to the current debate about whether the CIA should be investigated for abusive interrogation practices. Not surprisingly, the agency wants to keep the Joannides story buried.

The CIA now acknowledges that it possesses 295 documents on Joannides' actions in 1963 and 1978. Agency officials insist they cannot release the records in any form, allegedly for reasons of national security. Bear in mind that all of these documents concern events that happened 30 to 45 years ago. Nonetheless, the Agency lawyers claim--with straight faces--that the release of a single word of any of them would endanger public safety in 2009.

It was exactly this sort of brazen assertion that Obama targeted in his FOIA order, declaring "the Government should not keep information confidential merely because public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because errors and failures might be revealed, or because of speculative or abstract fears."

In February my attorney, Jim Lesar, asked the agency's lawyer, Brad Peterson, to reconsider the Agency's position in light of the president's order. Peterson refused. I actually thought the CIA might follow White House orders when it came to records related to the murder of a sitting president. Silly me.

I should note that Peterson was within the law in refusing my request. The boilerplate language attached to the Obama's executive order states that it does not apply to ongoing litigation, only to government actions from that point on.

But in March Attorney General Eric Holder issued a directive to the heads of executive departments and agencies, including the CIA, about the implementation of Obama's order. Holder declared that the new guidelines reaffirmed Obama's "commitment to accountability and transparency," and were "meant to underscore that commitment and to ensure that it is realized in practice [Emphasis added]. " In practice, however, the CIA holds to its preposterous position that release of the antique Joannides files will endanger the American people.

In April, Melanie Pustay, director of the Justice Department's Office of Information Policy, followed up on Holder's directive with a memo stating that all government agencies "must review all aspects of their approach to transparency and incorporate these principles into all decisions they make [emphasis added] involving the FOIA to ensure that the presumption of disclosure is fully realized in practice." More fine words but in reality, "all decisions" didn't include the Agency's decision to continue stonewalling on Joannides.

And so it goes. Officials from the National Archives have repeatedly requested access to the Joannides files to review them for assassination-related material. The CIA declined, citing my lawsuit seeking release of the records as justification for concealing them.

The Joannides files should have been made public a decade ago, according to Judge John Tunheim, former chair of the Assassination Records Review Board, a civilian panel which declassified million of pages of JFK records in the 1990s. Tunheim says the CIA did not share the Joannides files with the review board. "If we had known about these records, I'm sure we would have declassified virtually all of them," he says.

I still believe, perhaps naively, that Obama's FOIA order will be obeyed. My lawsuit continues. The CIA could change its position in a court filing due this summer. But I've learned a lesson about what President Obama is up against. Just because the CIA's position in a FOIA case is factually absurd, legally obtuse and directly contradictory to the president's wishes doesn't mean it is vulnerable to change. When it comes to the government's most sensitive JFK assassination records, the CIA culture of secrecy still has the force of law and the Obama's beautiful words have the force of air.

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Jefferson Morley is the author of Our Man in Mexico: Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA. He can be reached at morleyj@gmail.com or via the Facebook Cause page, "Stop CIA Stonewalling on JFK Records."
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Re: Phil Dragoo
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 03:54:01 am »
The Assassination / Were you ordered to shoot Oswald


The analysis of the House Select Committee on Assassinations nine-member polygraph panel of experts is a damning peer review of FBI polygraphist Bell P. Herndon's testing of Jack Ruby.

Herndon's setting of the galvanic skin response to 25% for the first series of tests, and 20% for the balance negated a useful indicator of deception.

Further, this alleged expert allowed the test to continue with the faulty adjustment and performance of the pneumograph tube, allowing Ruby's suppression of his breathing to continue unregistered.

Herndon used too many test questions, too many relevant questions, too many tests, allowed too many present, too much time for the testing and an overly-late start for any useful readings.

Further the off-record arguments with Fowler and Tonahill skewed Ruby's reactions.

It is a matter of the tragic and outrageous record that Ruby in the cell plead with Warren and Ford et al to be taken back to Washington—the implication is clear that he wished to reveal more, but not in Dallas where he would be killed in short order.

A similar pleading tone can be read into (heard, if you will) in his repeated insistence to Fowler to be allowed to proceed with Herndon's protocol, to not be over-lawyered.

That Specter was present is farcical and damning—Specter presents as the omnipresent manipulator of the lone nut/no conspiracy propaganda.

The use and value of the polygraph lies within the guidelines of its admitted limitations and through adherence to its basic principles of test questions, relevant questions, test length, presence limited to tester and testee, etc.

As with all of the Commission and FBI measures, the adulteration of standard usage and practice to produce the lone patsy sans collaborators proceeded apace.

Aldrich Ames expressed trepidation to his KGB handler over his upcoming periodic CIA polygraph—to which the agent counseled, “Take the flutter.”  With that assurance, Ames (the most damaging spy in the Agency's history) passed with flying colors.

Just so, Herndon assured Ruby early on that he was doing fine.  This allowed Ruby to relax, being less likely to show reaction.

Robert, you showed an unconscious reaction to a question, and you had no intention to deceive.  I posit Jack Ruby did not intend to deceive, but to cooperate—within the parameters of a watchful organized crime element ready to provide for him the final solution he had provided for the inconvenient Oswald.

Seth Kantor is useful in understanding Jack Ruby—the meeting at Parkland is indicative.  The inside baseball knowledge of the difference between a Free Cuba Committee and the Fair Play for Cuba Committee has been lost on the official investigations—willful blindness.

That Ruby concocted the wiring the stripper money ruse.  That he walked into a street door to the station, crossed the hall and descended the stairs to the garage after viewing a signal from the alley by Western Union (not the silly ramp scenario) shows his connections within DPD.

His gun-running.  His mob ties to the Havana casino figures.  Sightings of Ruby and Oswald.  Attempted truck purchases for Cuba.  Oh no, he was just a good citizen who wanted to spare Jackie a trial.

The Danny Aiello film Ruby was an attempt to indicate his greater complexity, but was bogged in overdramatization and departure from the factual basis.

His phone record alone was telltale—and no, it was not attributable to a labor dispute.  Jack handled labor disputes with his fists.  To be talking to major mob players in the last ninety days was chatter on final to Elm Street.
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Yes, it is a Big Lie, isn't it?
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 03:55:43 am »
The Assassination / JFK the tragic figure



James, your theme is developed at page 14 http://www.maryknollsocietymall.org/chapters/978-1-57075-755-6.pdf

JFK presents as the tragic figure having caused his own demise.

He resisted and threatened the national security establishment alluded to by Eisenhower in his military-industrial speech in 1961 and the danger the CIA had become per the Truman Washington Post editorial of December 1963.

In addition he enraged powerful figures in organized crime who publicly threatened him on repeated occasions.

He was generally deemed a traitor by the CIA-Cuban operatives of the failed Bay of Pigs invasion.

Oil men spent real money to insure their oil depletion allowance would not be taken away by him.

Johnson and Hoover form a powerful Janus of animosity.

There would be a war in Vietnam no matter what the temporary resident of the White House had to say about it.

Dulles symbolized the contempt with his “that little Kennedy. . .he thought he was a god.”

Armstrong and Newman et al have indicated special handling of one Lee Oswald.

The photos and x-rays of the autopsy altogether with the coercion of the three autopsists and other assorted technicians came from the highest levels of the Pentagon.

JFK created a critical mass of resistance.

All of the above had a place on the great mandala of the coup.

It's the dance of the seven veils which persists which prevents an agitated populace from actually addressing the matter.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 03:56:19 am »
The Assassination / Pearl of great price

T_Stark

I believe your view is that there is too much an element of for-profit in the publication of pro-conspiracy books and pro-Warren Commission books.

The realism of idealism ought to be recognized, that is, the legitimate rage felt by many citizens that an abhorrent act was committed and ought not stand.

I do not quarrel with any writer's wage, any more than with that of the teacher, the clerk, the carpenter, or the nurse.

I would question what bargain with Lucifer the Warrenati have made, that their thirty pieces of silver marks them out for another ride to get it right.

We should in all things call out the shallow, the fake, the poseur, the charlatan.

Yet we should recognize that many, and present company as likely as any, are motivated, not by profit, but by settling accounts.

When I saw Groden and Gregory and Geraldo screening Zapruder and the head shot came I was convinced I'd been lied to by my government.

No “jet effect” could dispel the obvious fact of a frontal shot.

Through cognitive dissonance the Sunsteinian efforts persist:  “What are you going to believe, authority or your lying eyes?”

You mention vanity along with profit, fame and fortune, as motives for Posner and Bugliosi.

Surely they are prey to those base appeals, along with their presenting as Eric Hoffer's True Believer, Stalin's New Soviet Man, Blair-Orwell's Inner Party Member, incapable of acknowledging any argument counter to dogma.

At their level, they are to express obedience; that is the price of their purse.

There are many here among us
who feel that life is but a joke
but you and I we've been through that
and this is not our fate
so let us not talk falsely now
the hour is getting late

And, consider, for many, the wages of resistance to dogma are not riches, but scorn, ridicule, intimidation, or for that select few, death.

Most people in all parts of the world know Kennedy was assassinated by a crew of thugs—some with very fine resumes and pedigrees, but thugs nonetheless.

Your avatar is Steve McQueen.  He began stopping a world-menacing monster with an ABC fire extinguisher and never was better than doing his own world-class driving in Bullitt.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2013, 03:57:07 am »
The Assassination / All watched over by an agency of infinite wisdom and compassion

Limit CIA Role to Intelligence

Harry S. Truman

Washington Post December 22, 1963

http://www.maebrussell.com/Prouty/Harry%20Truman's%20CIA%20article.html

The following is vital to an understanding of the post-Dulles CIA, and objections of Truman:

Chapter 8
CIA: The "Cover Story" Intelligence Agency
and the Real-Life Clandestine Operator


http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/ST/STchp8.html

Are U.S. Presidents Afraid of the CIA?
Ray McGovern

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/AreUSPresidentsAfraidCIA%3F.html

McGovern covers Dulles' unsuccessful attempt to get Truman to recant, and the memo the former DCI sent to CIA counsel Houston falsely claiming Truman recanted.

The article author finds Douglass' Unspeakable leads to the conclusion the intelligence agency is responsible for the assassination.

Oh, but they have assured us it was the senseless act of a poor marksman with a defective weapon completing shots the legendary Hathcock said were laughably impossible for him.

Now comes a Tom Hanks/Vincent Bugliosi Toy Deposit Story cartoon of exactly how the dastardly deed was done—requiring of course, a suspension of disbelief.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2013, 03:57:56 am »
The Assassination / Critical mass of menace

With Kennedy's death, Marcello had the stone out of his shoe.

The Pentagon had its war.

Johnson had the Oval Office.

Hoover had career continuity certain.

Cubans had revenge.

Angleton had Oswald in his web from enlistment; Veciana saw Phillips with Oswald; Dulles was appointed to protect CIA.

Hoover controlled the investigation, having thrust much evidence and testimony down the memory hole.

Roselli was in the Castro/JM WAVE business as “Major”--with Morales, Hunt, Phillips—a melding of Company and Outfit.

Ferrie was involved with Banister who was Naval Intellgence, CIA, FBI, in an address used by Oswald, and Banister was familiar with Oswald whom he described as “one of ours.”

Ruby cleaned up, aided by Patrick Dean, associated with Joseph Civello.

CIA has an enormous budget, global infrastructure, statutory plausible denial and uses all expertly to accomplish its ends without blowback.

Yet Lane destroyed Hunt's alibi, and Phillips confessed to his presence, and, adding the military aspect,  Lansdale has been identified in the tramp photos.

Braden/Brading and perhaps Charles Nicoletti were in the Dal-Tex Building, along with Texas Uranium and Oil, Jennifer Junior, leading to two coincidences where one is too many.

Zapruder's partner Jeanne DeMohrenschildt.

DeMohrenschildt and Nicoletti blasting off Planet Earth on March 29, 1977 in advance of HSCA.

A commonality of interests is more useful than an artificial separation of agency.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 03:58:46 am »
The Assassination / "The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin."

Excellent observations.

Some have said JFK and Allen Dulles remained great friends after JFK fired Allen Dulles.

Surely Allen Dulles would have claimed such—see how his memo to Houston lies that he was successful in convincing Truman to recant his December 1963 Washington Post editorial.

Yet JFK was a danger to Dulles' CIA—would “shatter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.”  See how he stripped it of its covert operations with NSAM 55 and the creation of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Yet we need not speculate the purpose for which the commission was created when Rostow, Moyers, Katzenbach, Hoover, and Johnson all spoke of the need to get something out which would stop the rumors throughout the world of the conspiracy behind the assassination.

Instrumental to this end was Angleton's World War III virus, Oswald's alleged visits to the Soviet and Cuban consulates in Mexico City which enabled Johnson to pressure Warren to head the Commission or risk 40 million killed in the first half-hour of a nuclear exchange.

The 26-volume set would serve to fill that empty space in one's bookcase or prop up one's car for an oil change.



Here is Mary Ferrell's page with more information on Steve Duffy's suggestion of Gerald Knight's Breach of Trust:

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Walkthrough_-_Formation_of_the_Warren_Commission
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 03:59:23 am »
Newman is excellent here http://www.ctka.net/reviews/newman.html

He indicates many problems with the record of calls and visits, yet says CIA and Kostikov agreed Oswald met with him.

If the evidence of Oswald's visit is so strong why did Ruth Paine have to keep planting Mexican postcards for the police to find.

Oh it's certainly a virtuoso performance by Angleton and Phillips' Goodpasture and accomplished its purpose—stop investigating, cover up.

But the actual Oswald in Mexico City?  Why then the photos which are not he, and the tapes which are not he, and all of the anomalies.

Because it was operationally a botch.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 04:00:07 am »
The Assassination / He ain't the one

The alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, was deprived of life by the conspiracy which murdered the president.  A stipulation, not a speculation.

Mr. Oswald was assured a number of rights of which he was subsequently deprived by U.S. Consitution, Amendment VI, to wit:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed; which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.

The Warren Commission, the House Select Committee on Assassinations, the screeds of Posner and Bugliosi and the rest of the mockingbirds continue to deprive the accused of his civil rights.

Garrison was subjected to the burrowing and gnashing of ten or a dozen CIA moles, warranted the installation of a teletype in the CIA office in the trial city, the use of CIA-approved defense attorneys and the daily inquiries by Helms in re “our people down there.”

Oswald was an undercover intelligence operative used by those who had so much to gain by Kennedy's execution.

Only through suppression does the evil endure.  When Lane tested Hunt, he punctured him in the manner of Cyrano de Bergerac.

The case against Oswald relies upon the new fascist state created by the National Security Act of 1947; Kennedy was its greatest threat, and all subsequent presidents have taken heed.

Do not quibble and dither; Oswald is the shame of all Americans.

Kennedy, Oswald, King, Robert—all killed by lone nuts.

When they were all dead, and Mark Rudd's “Maoists” ran past Justice, banging the iron knocker, the shirtsleeved attorneys watching the Nixon Counterinnaugural January 19, 1969, looked down and sneering, flashed the bird.

Justice, just us.
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Re: Phil Dragoo
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 04:00:58 am »
The Assassination / From arrest through first appeal

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/criminal_rights/criminal_rights_courtroom/right_to_counsel.html

The Right to Counsel

A criminal defendant's right to an attorney is found in the Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which requires the "assistance of counsel" for the accused "in all criminal prosecutions." This means that a defendant has a constitutional right to be represented by an attorney during trial. It also means that if the defendant cannot afford an attorney, in almost all instances the government will appoint one to handle the case, at no cost to the defendant.
Keep in mind that, while the right to counsel is discussed here in connection with a criminal trial, a suspect has the right to a lawyer at almost every important phase of the criminal process, typically from arrest through the first appeal after conviction.

Take the case of the agricultural agent who was a threat to Johnson—he committed suicide.

That's an example of how Texas law differs from U.S. Constitution Amendment VI and the right to counsel as it is recognized in America.

That Oswald was executed BEFORE trial and conviction and without counsel would be considered by the former top Law Enforement Officer Hoover as “a clerical error”--see reversal of Zapruder frames in Life Magazine.

Oswald repeatedly expressed desire for counsel--”someone to come forward”--but he got a shiner, a torn shirt, slanted lineups, no record of two days of interrogation, and when he called long distance the Feds listened in and blocked the call.

In other words, Oswald got the full Third Reich treatment.

To this day the case against him is so full of holes it makes Marlene Dietrich's net stockings opaque by comparison.

Or were those stockings Hoover's. . . .
Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control. It is the shaping impulse of America that neither fate nor nature nor the irresistible tides of history, but the work of our own hands, matched to reason and principle, that will determine our destiny.

RFK